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Monday, May 16, 2011

The Last Supper (I had)

so i had supper with an atheist the other day, a delightful character, unlike some other arrogant atheists i've known. he is smart as well and i have this penchant for smart people. i enjoy such meeting just to stuff our faces and yea talk about stuff.

the meeting was in bangsar, in a non posh place but not too 'in your face' non posh kind of place. actually i was supposed to meet someone else, who happened to invite him along. it was funny when the person who initiated the meeting left earlier than the people she invited.

i have a feeling she left because she couldn't keep up with the 'chat' we had. and how the chat accelerated exponentially to becoming fatally boring. for her.

anyway.

it started with somewhat a light discussion about art in which we both 'half yawned' after a while. the problem with talking about art is, the person who thinks he is right is almost certain to be the topic of discussion of another group. when it comes to art, if you have an opinion and people seem to agree with you, sometimes it is because they are too tired to listen to you hence, their disagreement will be discussed in agreement by a different group that excludes you.

then we moved on to religion. this was where it got interesting though it was almost the usual stuff, how religion is this and that, how logic is this and that, and then we argued some more... and then we agreed that we couldn't convince each other (though rather contrived) and then argued again, until a cockroach crept unto our table. the chat was so long that 'evolution' happened under the table. that was when we decided to call it quit. it was at 6.00 in the morning.

as i was driving back home i was thinking about the fact that i spent 6 hours debating without outcome. and that it was quite possible that we would've continued if the cockroach hadn't appeared and appeared mysteriously. and that the ultimate question about accepting or rejecting God is not who is right and who is wrong - it is ultimately "where does it stop?".

perhaps for now the answer to that question is, "when the cockroach comes..."

8 comments:

bukanputeriraja said...

hm.

beautiful.disgrace said...

tak lari marathon pun? roach.

xx said...

"God is, or He is not."

When it comes to the issue of accepting or rejecting God, I prefer to take the stance of Pascal's Wager. If you gain, you gain all. If you lose, you lose nothing.

Wouldn't it be easier to believe in God, die, and realize that there is a God, then to not believe in God, die and realize there is in fact a God?

xx

saidatul said...

till which point of your discussion that the cockroach decided to pop out? who talked last? the last sentence must be the wrap up no matter what...(in this kind of situation)...

if the last person is the atheist and he just said (after you guys saw the cockroach) '*yawn....its already subuh...nice chatting with you' -like...

then the atheist will completely seems confused...

-just a thought..

lolahunny said...

yeah, six hours debating about something that does not have an outcome is exhausting. Almost makes you feel like you've lost 6 hours of your time and you can never get that back.
God is subjective, I am no saint .. but I do believe that god is here with us.

ps: Mr Minhat, you good looking lad. I think you should be wary that I am going to be a frequent visitor.

Anonymous said...

funny..hehe..

Anonymous said...

salam, Debating about religion is something interesting..ive gone through all those things,,debate debate..and then we will get blood pressure sometimes if we dealing wid someone stuborn and etc..i used to debate in yahoo islamic room 9...and i left it long ago..we will meet alot of good peoples also bad peoples...very hard to change them..indeed..sometimes feel sad wen our good fren are not accepting the truth..as they said truth always hurt..by the way..keep making Doa..and enshaAllah.."buat baik pasti dibalas baik" maalsalama (fanthaghiroroses)

Wan Zahira said...

You are beyond great! Your personality are really nice, you are gorgeous. Your English is something like, WOW too. And, I really, extremely, adore you! Hahaha, I don't call myself a big fan of yours, I just adore you as the way you are :)