so i had supper with an atheist the other day, a delightful character, unlike some other arrogant atheists i've known. he is smart as well and i have this penchant for smart people. i enjoy such meeting just to stuff our faces and yea talk about stuff.
the meeting was in bangsar, in a non posh place but not too 'in your face' non posh kind of place. actually i was supposed to meet someone else, who happened to invite him along. it was funny when the person who initiated the meeting left earlier than the people she invited.
i have a feeling she left because she couldn't keep up with the 'chat' we had. and how the chat accelerated exponentially to becoming fatally boring. for her.
it started with somewhat a light discussion about art in which we both 'half yawned' after a while. the problem with talking about art is, the person who thinks he is right is almost certain to be the topic of discussion of another group. when it comes to art, if you have an opinion and people seem to agree with you, sometimes it is because they are too tired to listen to you hence, their disagreement will be discussed in agreement by a different group that excludes you.
then we moved on to religion. this was where it got interesting though it was almost the usual stuff, how religion is this and that, how logic is this and that, and then we argued some more... and then we agreed that we couldn't convince each other (though rather contrived) and then argued again, until a cockroach crept unto our table. the chat was so long that 'evolution' happened under the table. that was when we decided to call it quit. it was at 6.00 in the morning.
as i was driving back home i was thinking about the fact that i spent 6 hours debating without outcome. and that it was quite possible that we would've continued if the cockroach hadn't appeared and appeared mysteriously. and that the ultimate question about accepting or rejecting God is not who is right and who is wrong - it is ultimately "where does it stop?".
perhaps for now the answer to that question is, "when the cockroach comes..."